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What most helps your personal growth?

Posted on Oct 26th, 2008 by boogie : anarchist boogie
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for October 26, 2008:

staying alive.
The River's Gonna Run - Sam Bush

the river is gonna run, y'all.  the dam's gonna break and wash half of downtown chattanooga away.  this has been a recurring dream for me for a very long time.  i do not know when it's going to happen.  time goes all wonky for me, you know.

When the Levee Breaks

do not be afraid.  this is not a bad thing.  this is Mother Earth healing herself.  she must be free from man's constraints, that sick desire to control everything for personal gain...

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Jeff : messenger
14 minutes later
Jeff said

I have to ask what do you think this means to you personally. Dreams are about ourselves, not about a situation, even if the floods come and more then likely they will. Yet there is a personal message and guidance for you… 
I am Love, Jeff

boogie : anarchist
20 minutes later
boogie said

you do not have to believe me, Jeff.  i sometimes see the future.  i know exactly what this means.

i don't like it when that happens.  when i see things that haven't happened yet.  it really sucks.  but i'm not staying quiet this time.

Jeff : messenger
26 minutes later
Jeff said

I did not say I don't believe you… Our intuition  and visions are very important part os what make us who we are… 
Yes and we need to speak and share about these opportunity for growth and change!
I am Love, Jeff

boogie : anarchist
about 1 hour later
boogie said

when i do that, see things like that, they are possibilities.  we have free will, even if so many of us opt not to use it.  one decision by one person can change all of history.  in the future i've seen, we have it easy here in Tennessee compared to many other places….

and of all the different possible futures i've seen, the one we are in now is the good one, the one i wanted to experience.  beats hell out of a militaristic police state (not even a possibliity anymore, but i don't know why not) or armageddon (which is still possible, perhaps this future will be perceived by many to be just that).

boogie : anarchist
about 6 hours later
boogie said

i almost didn't answer this question.  what most helps your personal growth?  indeed.  every day i learn something new.  that is the only reason worth living.  for the chance to learn something new.  yeah, so, usuallly those lessons are learned the hard way, by making mistakes.  that's just part of it.  so long's i live to see tomorrow's lessons unfurl.  that's what it's all about.

you want to experience perfection?  you want to be always right?  go ahead and die, then, because you're missing the whole point of living.  the whole point of living is to live!!  not to strive for “personal growth” or to “evolve” or to reach some imaginary “enlightenment” ….  those things only reflect a divided way of thinking about humanity.  and the liars are right sometimes, we really are one, it's just what they say about that is all wrong, it's built around control issues that stem from the lies they have been led to believe are true, because they are afraid to find the truth inside themselves.

so go ahead, you and your herd mentality, pretending you aren't sheep.  baaaaaa
i found truth, and it's not always pretty.  but one thing about it is the lies never really hurts what is true, they only hurt those who believe them to be true.

boogie : anarchist
about 13 hours later
boogie said

i am so fed up with your political “debates” which are anything but a debate.  and your fucking phone calls telling me who i should vote for…  and your obama parties, raising money for some rich dude born, bred, and groomed to rule over your pathetic lives of servitude.  stupid stupid shits.  there won't be an election, and you know it.  you've known it a long time, but you would rather pretend the lies are true.  but you know it.  you do.  i know you do.

whether the disasters are man-made or natural, it doesn't matter.  there will be big disasters, postpone the election.  maybe just cancel the inauguration, whatever.  and after BushCo reduces the population according to Plan, then in steps new puppet with new lies and prettier words to save us all!!  and the stupid sheep will be too shell-shocked, too traumatized to question any of it, they will eat it up, gorge themselves on the lies that sedate the masses.  and they will call it a “revolution,” and nothing will change.  same as it ever was. 

but it doesn't have to happen that way.  all those people don't have to die.  really.  but it sure looks to me like they'd rather.  you would rather be getting virtual blowjobs on the internet than talking about anything that really matters.  stupid.  i am so fed up with this shit….  who gives a damn?  who really cares?  all you care about is your newest get-rich-quick scheme, how to fuck over your neighbor and have a newer shinier car in your driveway, and buy your wife bigger boobs.  fuck you, all you shits.  i hate your capitalism and your consumerism, and especially i hate how you deny reality while you talk about “awakening” …and how you most adore those who abuse you the most.

yes, i'll say it again.  this IS the good future.  and you can deny it all you want, but there's some bad shit gonna go down, and real soon, too…  weave your pretty illusions made of lies.  go on.  think only good thoughts.  trust in someone else, your guru, your jesus, your favorite candidate.  are you really so gullible as to think they have your best interest in mind?  they'll tell you themselves, it's all about the good of the group, the “greater good” they like to call it.  individuals, like you and me, we don't count for shit.  none of us do.  you'd rather think it's just the fringe elements, the freaks, the misfits, who will be hurt.  but you're wrong.  because they don't care about you, either.  you are nothing more than a number in their machine, same as the money that rules your life.  in one instant, it can all go *poof*  ….  and what would be left of you, if the money were gone?  if you had no job, no title, no status, who would you be?

Jeff : messenger
1 day later
Jeff said

…that you are part of a Larger Whole, and you are

never, ever alone.

It is tempting, during difficult times, to feel very much

alone, as if you are taking this journey in solo form,

with no one at your side, and no one on your side.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

You are an aspect of The Divine. God lives in you,

through you. “I am with you always, even unto the end

of time” are not just pretty words. They are truth.

Neale Donald Walsch 
boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

it's nothing at all


*grins*

<3

and this is highly relevant to the discussion, i do believe…

According to these reports the American Generals have stated their ‘firm belief’ that the United States and Europe are under an ‘imminent threat’ for large scale attacks by nuclear weapons prior to the US elections, due to be held on November 4th, that will completely destroy both America and the European Union in a bid to establish upon both these Nations a new ‘Forth Reich’ modeled upon the former German Nazi Empire.

Russian Military Analysts state in these reports that the fascist forces currently in power in both the United States and European Union already have in place all of the necessary laws and private paramilitary forces needed to accomplish such an astounding coup of virtually the entire Western World.


Jeff : messenger
2 days later
Jeff said

So do you wish to live in fear? Or will you live in Love! 

boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

i'm not afraid of their stupid games.  that's all it is, a game to them.  our lives are meaningless, we are just numbers in their game.  but to deny the truth of the matter, bury your head in the sand, or worse, sing the praises of some politician who tells you prettier lies….  well, that's just stupid.

maybe LOVE doesn't mean sitting idly by while the government kills millions of innocent people (and thinking it's not your problem, this time the war is your problem and it's coming to your own backyard). 

maybe LOVE doesn't mean putting up with a corrupt system, so long as you aren't the one being oppressed by it. 

maybe LOVE really does mean standing up, alone if that's what it takes, and screaming at the top of your lungs, “this shit sucks, y'all!”

because nothing sucks worse than someone who sees another human being tortured, tormented, oppressed, and abused, and then turns their back.  and they spout all that crap about love, it sounds real good, don't it?  but what the fuck are they doing to show anyone love?  sending imaginary white light ain't cutting it, y'all.  if you love somebody, what you say don't mean shit, it's what you do that counts.

boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

maybe LOVE means that we are all connected.  maybe LOVE means that I feel others' pain, and don't want them to hurt anymore.  and nothing hurts worse than the mind-control that prevents us from connecting with everyone else, because that's what happens when you realize who you really are, you feel that connection, and you can call it oneness, but i don't see it that way.  maybe LOVE is many things, all lumped together and called by one same name by humans who have no clue what it's all about.

i'll tell you this.  i know what love is, it calls me by my name.  and love tells me who i am, who i really am, why i am here.  i am not here to play idiotic games and pretend the world is fine when it's not.  i am not here to suffer as millions of lives are snuffed out in the name of world domination and control.  because when those people die, i will feel their pain.  and maybe it's just selfishness, i don't want them to hurt because it hurts me.  or maybe it's something else.  love, perhaps.

Jeff : messenger
2 days later
Jeff said

I understand you frustration and concern… Yet many people do not know how to respond to this form of “anger” and so they run away… I have learned I am not responsible for the others, I am responsible for showing up myself. I have been right where you are… I lived among men who had a beautiful mission statement of honoring the earth, and human life, in their daily living, but could not and would not live up to it. When questioned as you are doing from myself and others, who held the deep sadness and hurt from the confusion of what they said and what they did they forced them to leave… or made them feel like they where “wrong” outcaste… 
Yet I have come to learn and know… I do not know what is in their hearts, minds, emotions. I can only be an example of the change, and I can't be that from a place of dislike, of anger, frustration, lack of support… I can offer suggestions, guidance, and not sit in my stuff, but let go. Move away and detach from the anger and frustration and do what I can to be the change. 
does any of this make sense?

boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

no, jeff, it doesn't.  it feels to me that you are trying to invalidate my feelings.  and my feelings are valid, and do not need to be suppressed because it might make others uncomfortable because what's really going on is they are uncomfortable with their own feelings, they have been told it is wrong to feel strong emotions of any sort, they have been told you should play nice, they have been told that their Truth hurts other people, and that's wrong…  my truth only hurts those who would rather believe the lies.  because if they'd only find their own truth, they would realize that my truth doesn't have to be true for them, that the only truth that matters is that which you find inside yourself. 

but they don't want to hear about the truth i found inside myself.  because my truth says they have to find their own.  and they don't want to do that.  they want someone else to give them truth so they don't have to do all the hard work of healing themselves.  but i know it doesn't work that way.

Jeff : messenger
3 days later
Jeff said

Stacy,
 It was not my intention to invalidate your feelings, it really was to support you in them… yes they are real and I have felt and feel your anger and frustration! and you are correct we do not wish to look deeper, we do not wish to seek our own truth we rather have someone tell us their truth and when it does jive with our we fight back or leave… I am not fighting back, I am seeking my own, was uncomfortable when your truth because I know it is true, for you and it true for me and many others. How to be with it, that truth is the tricky part… I can acknowledge the truths as I see them and feel them for me and go into action of stay in the chaos until… many times I have to do both…
I thank you for allowing me to walk here with you!

boogie : anarchist
3 days later
boogie said

thanks, Jeff!
the more the merrier!

<3

dance with me!! 
i got some things to talk about… 

Jeff : messenger
3 days later
Jeff said

I am dancing with. I am playing catch up though… Talk, share, vent, communicate, sing, shout, dance some more… 

3 days later
richDUCK said

interesting dialogue to read from a 3rd party stance here. Stacey, I appreciate SO much your passion, whether I agree with or not, it is pure & full on. Thanx!
sincerely
rich

boogie : anarchist
3 days later
boogie said

to clear up any confusion, the dialogue isn't between myself and my dear friend, Jeff.  it's a monologue…  between me and the imaginary “herd” …  all those people, and you can include yourself, or not, who believe the lies, who think there is strength in numbers, who willingly give up their power to make their own decisions over to some external authority rather than finding their own authority, within.

and in order to make sense of any of this what i'm talking about, you gotta read my other shit.  and i can't ask anyone to do that.

but anyway, glad you are enjoying my keyboard sputum…  it can be fun sometimes, for those who recognize that i don't expect anyone to agree with my opinion, i only expect you to have one of your own!!  ;-)

3 days later
richDUCK said

Yes, I very much am the sort to have quite the different look/perception on things as the rest of the herd. What other shit are you referring to, by the way? I have always walked my own path, Stacey, even when it would have been So much easier just to go with the flow of all others. this is one major reason as to why I can never seem to go along with pretty much any part of ANY organized religion. Pretty much the same attittude with government as well. But who is more to blame, those in control or those mindless, lazy types that follow blindly? Such is a great deal of this nation, perhaps this world even.

boogie : anarchist
3 days later
boogie said

see, i'm not talking about blame.  blame is part of the problem!!!
what i'm talking about is personal responsiblity instead.  getting rid of the blame, which only serves to create a fear of being blamed by others.  it is shame, the fear of being “to blame” that controls the masses.

and how did the blame start?  plato explained it well in The Republic just how that works.  and it still works today, 2400 years later.  we must first invent this notion of evil that we can blame when bad things happen, divide all-that-is into two parts, good and evil.  the division itself is a lie, but one that is not allowed to be questioned.

where's that poem i wrote….  ??

the original lie is in the division of all-that-is into good and evil.
with this division, blame is created.
with the blame, fear is created.
with the fear, the people are effectively controlled.


here's some stuff i wrote last  year on this subject…

boogie : anarchist
3 days later
boogie said

oh Lars, so glad you finally came out to play!!  you know this is more my style, though….  giggle

3 days later
richDUCK said

so much here to digest. So, Stacy, am I perceiving it properly to see what you're stating thru most all of this is that to you knowledge is your reason for living? And that knowledge is your own understanding of whatever it is that you have ingested/digesting, into your mind, your soul, your world?

boogie : anarchist
3 days later
boogie said

yeah, i guess you could say that, Rich.  hmmm….  yeah.  i think so.  knowledge, not through “education” (which comes from others sharing their understanding with you) but through the experience itself.  that works for me! 

wow.

thanks!

3 days later
richDUCK said

'New at all this here, so give me a little time on here, Stacy, & I'll open 'er up a little wider. There is just SO much out there that I am SO hungry to ….experience, I guess, is a good way to put it. I repsect you, y'know!

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