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How do you define power?

Posted on Oct 24th, 2009 by boogie : anarchist boogie
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for October 24, 2009:

power equals control.  it's not a good thing.  it not only hurts whomever you seek control over, but yourself as well.  power and control is what turns fairies, the little bright spirits, into demons, the little dark ones, the same way beating a dog will turn it mean.  power is addictive too.  you repeatedly abuse yourself (in attempt at control), you become addicted to the abuse.  you start to crave more and more of it, while it kills you from the inside out, just like a drug.
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ohmsmom : Proud Research Associate
about 1 hour later
ohmsmom said

dangerous stuff.  right now i have a 3 pound kitten on my desk, while i try to  type and i am feeling powerless :)

boogie : anarchist
about 3 hours later
boogie said

thanks shirl!  strength, that's something different.  and you are one very strong woman!  x

Jeannie : Artist / Mother / Friend
about 5 hours later
Jeannie said

Strength is a very good word…

Liza : Lightworker
about 22 hours later
Liza said

It's sad to see that happen to a person, and any persons who'd would contribute to control.
But too I say you reap what you sow.

Sow love, reap joy.

Zennie : Earl of Essence
1 day later
Zennie said

I couldn't agree more, and I appreciate the practical example of what it can do to an individual. That made it very real over here, and being real is helpful, expanding, and provides for the possibility of change personally and expanded out from there in life.

Thank you so much!
z

starlight : StarLight Dancing
1 day later
starlight said

Hey Stacy, good blog…

I had someone in my life that exerted this kind of manipulation and control…of course I rebelled…spent years drinking and drugging…then when I got sober and had to really look at my part…of course when I was a child the only part I played was victim…but later, I realized that this person was doing the very best they could.  

They had been raised in a mentally ill environment, and their version was a few notches up in that regard, but to maintain control over their demons within, they had to try and control everything around them…

Anyways, I get what you are saying Stacy…and I agree…but many times the ones exerting this kind of control have twisted minds to begin with…sometimes b/c of how they themselves were raised and abused…

I know you don't like everyone agreeing with you, so I thought I would help out and give another pov…gol…

I love you Stac…u rock big time!!!*

boogie : anarchist
1 day later
boogie said

i do agree with you. 

abuse comes from abuse. 
but it is our choice,
whether to break the chain,
or not.

we can choose to play victim
we can choose to play abuser,
or we can choose not to play
that game nobody wins.

i can count on one hand the number of people i know who don't play that game.  that's what is so sad, is that we have all been so abused, and that we deny it, and that denial is what allows it to continue. 

deny it all you want, that won't ever make it go away.

starlight : StarLight Dancing
1 day later
starlight said

well, it is difficult, as you know, for anyone to get completely rigorously self-honest…this is why so many stay sick…

some seem to be incapable of doing so…our hospitals and doctor's offices are filled with them…

i choose to play…not the games they play, but my dance…and then there are times, when i am tired…and must go to the mountain to gain more strength…to continue to dance this human dance…with as much grace and honesty as i can…

much love and joy*

crudebliss : Let Lord Swaminarayan Triumph
1 day later
crudebliss said

I was following Star around and wow… what a great blog… !!!
I would like for you guys to take a look at this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0AObjQfas

I do really have to thank allot of my freinds in here for my growth… (in the path of love and compassion ;-)

ohmsmom : Proud Research Associate
1 day later
ohmsmom said

yes, yes choice!  Stacy, thank you for the kind words.  strength is a great message in this blog, i choose to use mine to be as loving as possible and to accept that letting the little crazy kitten into my home, was my own doing!

Lucid  : Nagarjuna's Accountant
1 day later
Lucid said

Even the most powerful human beings in the world (International Banking Elites) have very little control. The ability to collapse the global economy, initiate and finance seemingly opposing sides of World Wars, enslave the entire global population through debt, siphon off the productive energies of humanity through inflation, destroy capital on a massive scale and propagate collectivism under the guise of “capitalism”, directly and indirectly murder millions upon millions of people, centralize and monopolize banking, industry, media, education, government, etc. , is insignificant next to the power of The Force!

boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

when they rape their own babies, that's control.  you can call it whatever you want, but that's what power is about.. raping babies, starving old people, killing the fittest of the young men in a war that nobody wants, a war that has been waged against all of humanity for thousands of years!  it's all the same war, and it has always been unnecessary.  the reason we have war is because those who seek power have enough control over our lives, and our very minds, that we are afraid to make it stop, we are afraid of our own strength (which is not the same as power, but we are taught to be confused about that), because of what they do with theirs. 

and the nastiest bit is that there are no good guys, nor are there any bad guys.  evil is a man-made idea, created to give us someone or something to blame rather than take responsibility for our own decisions.  blame is what creates the shame, and the fear is what keeps us under their power, our lives scripted out for us before we are even born.  the war is needed in order to create the fear that allows oppressive institutions of control, and groupthink, to exist, the fear that makes us choose to follow obediently with the rest of the herd of frightened sheeple rather than do anything to make it stop. 

http://mamaboogie.gaia.com/blog/2009/3/what_about_fear

governments, religions, economics, all the abusive institutions of control only have what power we give them.  it is our choice.  it has been all along.  there is nobody to blame anymore.  time to take back responsibility for our own lives, and start thinking for ourselves rather than looking to leaders to tell us what we should think, and start making our own decisions.

there is no reason to continue to comply with the dictates of a twisted society built upon a foundation of control and abuse.  the system is falling apart.  it was designed to do just that from the get-go.  every so often, a false revolution is called for, to create the illusion of change, while everything stays the same.  this time, let's not fall for that same trick, shall we?  this time, let's do one better than our parents, and every generation that came before them.  this time, let's really make the war stop.  this time, let's try freedom instead.  it won't be so bad.  it isn't nearly as frightening to me as it would be to join the herd, not knowing where we are being led, or by whom, or for what purpose (not our own). 

they are rolling out a USA version of common purpose.  we don't have to fall for the same “good of the group” trick as has worked to fool everyone else throughout recorded history.  they play on our good intentions, twisting them into actions that hurt us all, and they call it activism, and tell us how good it is to join the group.  they tell us how horrible we are and that alone we are nothing, that it takes a group to get anything done.  when it is joining the groups that prevents anything from ever changing!!  joining the government-approved opposition will not make change happen.  it never has in the past.  it won't ever ever work that way.  there is no good form of control.  there never was.  no matter the lies history tells.  those lies are coming out in the open now, for anyone to see who cares to look.  history is a lie.  we have all been tricked into allowing this war to continue.  now it's time to make it stop.  i mean it, y'all.

boogie : anarchist
2 days later
boogie said

oh, i ran out of edit time…  wtf

maybe i should stop there anyway…….  for now at least.  forgive me any format, spelling, grammatical errors, etc.,  as i can no longer edit that comment ^^.

starlight : StarLight Dancing
2 days later
starlight said

Hey Stacy…love what you have stated…and I am in agreement with much of it, but one thing, if we do stand up as individuals, won't that still be a group?

Lucid  : Nagarjuna's Accountant
4 days later
Lucid said

governments, religions, economics, all the abusive institutions of control only have what power we give them.  it is our choice.  it has been all along.  there is nobody to blame anymore.  time to take back responsibility for our own lives, and start thinking for ourselves rather than looking to leaders to tell us what we should think, and start making our own decisions.

Hear hear… That's exactly the problem, people want to have the benefits of a free society without accepting any kind of individual responsibility, making any kind of effort, or taking any kind of risk. It's like human beings have some kind of deep need for a psychological womb, which the State happily provides… The catch is that handing over responsibility for your life to another entity means that you become subservient to that power, much like a child must obey his/her parents, no matter how malevolent, violent, and psychotic that power is. So, we have several billion adolescents masquerading around as adults and have the nerve to wonder what the problem is…lol…

Here's a little something to think about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

boogie : anarchist
4 days later
boogie said

hahahahaha

a lively discussion going on at infolib, you should join us:
http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=27690&comments=20#18005

(edit to add my comments posted at the above link)

do you know what the republic is? have you read plato? no. i didn't think so. most people haven't. most people don't want to know that the republic is no different from the new world order. they don't want to know that “liberty” is a word used to make us give away our freedom. they sure don't want to be told that freedom is the republic's worse enemy. oh no, we must call them anarchists the freaks that would prefer freedom over government's controls, as though it is something vile and disturbing.

“America is targeted for destruction, and unless good people everywhere stand up for her, the last vestiges of true freedom will be destroyed.”

america never stood for freedom. america stood for lots of war, and even more debt. that's what your precious republic is. it was founded on blood, to create the debt that enslaved the whole world to the banks. nothing changed. and nothing will change, so long as there are idiots willing to follow other idiots to their own destruction instead of thinking for themselves.

your precious revolution won't change anything. they stage a new one every couple generations, and nothing has ever changed before. why would you do the exact same things that have always been done before and somehow think this time would be any different?

“decoding the attack against humanity”

this stuff right here is part of it. new propaganda, pretending to attack its predecessors, like all good obedient revolutionaries down through the ages. an attempt to create the illusion of change, while everything really stays the same.

*****

the good government is never going to save us from the bad government. they are simply two sides of the same coin. pick your side. so long as you pick one or the other that is presented to us by those who rule the world. this is how the republic has existed for over two thousand years, through countless false revolutions. this is not any different than what history shows happened, repeatedly, in humanity's past. we can choose to ignore the mistakes made in the past, or we can learn from them and make it stop. i do not believe in compromise when freedom is at stake. freedom is too important to me, to my children, than to settle for lies like “liberty” and “justice” instead.

*****

many would trade their dungeon for a gilded cage. not i. sorry chris. there is no good version of being controlled. it all sucks. and it all depends upon war to exist. i want the war to stop. the senseless killing of people for profit. this has got to stop. picking the “good” side and fighting the “evil” won't make it stop, that is exactly what allows it to exist.

the call is out for revolution. the bloodier the better because that racks up more debt, and debt enslaves us all. we don't have to play that game. the system is falling apart. we do not have to rebuild another on the same flawed foundation. there are other options. freedom is the option i prefer, personally. it's entirely possible, too. once we break free from the social conditioning that has us fear most the things that would set us free.

*****

the “patriot movement” is the government-approved opposition. sure, the establishment is going to fight them, that's their job.

*****

to be governed is the opposite of freedom. there is no good government gonna ever save us from the bad government. the american revolution was waged against the native tribes of this land. both “sides” (the redcoats and the yanks) were killing indians instead of each other (to clear the land for exploitation), and this racked up the debt that enslaved the colonies to the british empire. the constitution was written in the blood of innocent children, the ones who were killed in order to keep the truth of history hidden from the masses. you cannot have freedom and government controls both. that is doublethink of the most dangerous variety, as it serves to prevent rational thought and reasonable discourse on the subject.

*****

the history we were taught in school tells only part of the story, and that from the perspective of those who seek to rule through force and intimidation. just because they tell us nothing else has ever existed but their sick and twisted civilization based upon control and abuses, that doesn't mean it isn't possible. just because we may have never been (that is, assuming our education is correct, and we do know that everything we were taught in school isn't entirely true), doesn't mean we can't or won't ever be free.

the revolution con is described in plato's republic. every perceived change in power throughout history has been a repeat of the same script, because it keeps working. trick the people into thinking they want to be controlled, for the good of the group, the greater good, the common purpose. how they do it is to create some “evil” which can be blamed for the bad things, and make people pick sides. “you are either with us or against us.” we've heard that before.

we don't have to pick one side or the other, that is what prevents change, no matter the good intentions of the individuals in the group, no matter that they might perceive their own brainwashed status as a good thing, and think it would help us if only we could all be brainwashed, too. recognizing the controls for what they are is the first step towards breaking free. trading the bad control for good control is not an option, as i do not believe in good control. i don't believe in the illusion of safety and protection. i don't believe in laws, and governments, and religions. i believe in freedom, and i won't settle for less.

your example doesn't work in real life. in real life, if someone wanted to hurt my family, they would do it anyway. it doesn't matter what the law says one way or the other. legislative and religious law is founded upon abusive threats of punishment. that don't fly with me. you don't make abuse stop by being abusive, same as we will never achieve peace through violent acts of war.


anyway, if you've seen much of anything i blog about, you've heard it before.  i am starting to feel like a broken record, you know, the vinyl kind…    but the dialogue going on there right now is interesting, as it shows the troll's brainwash program rather clearly (but only to those not afraid to see it).

boogie : anarchist
4 days later
boogie said

for my own reference, and for anyone who wants to stalk my posts at infolib, a helpful link here

Lucid  : Nagarjuna's Accountant
4 days later
Lucid said

Let me make a few things clear: I am an individual without a sense of entitlement to the time and energy of others. That is the nature of my relationship with the world. I am not a “patriot”, I don't believe in some kind of “great Western heritage”, I don't give a shit about the “founding fathers”, and I have no illusions about the nature of power.

That being said, I also don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are certainly illusions and misdirections in the link I supplied above, but that doesn't mean that I cannot recognize that which is accurate and obvious. I have learned to pay attention to things I don't like and/or disagree with, because such is the way of being aware. Of course, that process is completely subjective, as is the experience of every sentient being. To each his/her own. There is no truth with a capital T, but I don't have to read a book about the history of Swiss watches to know what time it is.

I am an individualist, but I recognize that I am also part of this thing we call society, and it is my belief that anarchy is just as destructive as totalitarianism when applied to humanity today. The result of both is that whoever has the biggest stick rules. It takes a truly free person to be able to live without some minimal societal structure. One might say: “If I can do it and my family can, then so can everyone else.” And I would respond: “Speak for yourself.”

Can you really tell me with a straight face that people are ready to let go of conditioning and method with humanity being as barbaric as it is?

To me, protectorates are the best way for individuals to play together at the moment. Not governments, but protectorates a.k.a. voluntary structures that protect people on a basic level, defending them from violence, ensuring property and contract rights, a sound money supply, and the freedom of people to live as they wish as long as they do not harm others. No governing means no telling people how to live their lives and imposing one's way of life on another through a legalized monopoly on force. No one would be obligated or forced to be a part of a protectorate, one can join or leave a community any time they wish, as it should be.

Some basic conditioning is necessary up to a certain point in the development of an individual. Is raising a child not a form of control? Humans are obviously not like other animals, our linear mind is critical to our survival, and rationality is a product of our nature, control the product of rationality. Disciplines like yoga, Taoism, Zen, etc. are methods or “vehicles” of freeing the individual from their conditioning and reuniting them with their ground of being. When one is in harmony with Tao, they do not need a book of conduct to play well with others.

However, to be one with which virtue flows freely is not a state of being that falls out of the sky, and yet it is. No conditioning or too much conditioning is Mad Max territory, and I really don't think people wanna take it there. It's one thing to be free without knowledge, but to become free of knowledge is quite another…

boogie : anarchist
4 days later
boogie said

*giggle*    (pssst… thanks!)              :-)



sorry lucid, that was in reply to the link you posted.  not anything you said.  everyone comes with their own baggage, their own mind control program.  maybe mine is that i overreact when someone tries to tell me what i should think, and what i should do, which is exactly alex jones' MO.  i don't like psyops, especially not when some of my friends are believing the brainwashing and think it's a good thing.

you don't have to agree with anything i said.  i didn't say it to you, i had already posted that elsewhere when you posted the link.  no, i didn't watch the movie.  i watched the trailer, and read some articles about it, and i already experienced an awful lot of those emotional triggers that turns thinking off, recognized them for what they are, and posted my rant accordingly.

okay, you go live with your protectorate, your group for security and safety, instead of freedom.  that's nothing new, that's what the world has always done, and why we have never been free.  i think it's time for a real change is all, instead of the illusion of change like we have always been offered before.  maybe people aren't ready for it yet.  it takes a lot of healing to let go of the kinds of abuses we have all suffered.  but just like the battered woman i used to be, humanity will eventually learn that freedom isn't such the scary thing that we have been taught to think it would be. 

…mad max my ass.  i don't believe that mind control program either.  we have been programmed to fear most the idea of freedom.  they tell us it is something bad, that people are evil.  no.  people are not evil.  people, for the most part, want to help other people.  the ones who have been so abused as to take part in governments and religions and wars, they had to be taught how to be the monsters that they are, they had to be told they were doing it for our own good.  not so different from my ex-husband, who was a really great guy with a really bad drinking problem.

Lucid  : Nagarjuna's Accountant
4 days later
Lucid said

…lol… There I go editing myself while you post a response. That's too funny. BTW, I know Alex Jones is a psyop, but most of what he's saying happens to be true. He is a gatekeeper in a sense, mixing truth with misdirection and lies through omission. I am not one of his groupies, mmmkay ; )

I hear what you're saying, and I don't think people are intrinsically good or evil, it's just that what you're talking about strikes me as idealism that simply does not apply to the current state of affairs. Anarchy applied to humanity in its current state is like driving 200mph and then slamming the brakes with no seatbelt.

okay, you go live with your protectorate, your group for security and safety, instead of freedom.

HAHAHAHAHAHA…. MY protectorate… I need no protectorate, no group for security and safety, or someone to tell me if I am free or not ; )

Lucid  : Nagarjuna's Accountant
4 days later
Lucid said

Here's a verse from the Old Boy himself:

When the country is ruled with a light hand
The people are simple.
When the country is ruled with severity,
The people are cunning.
Happiness is rooted in misery.
Misery lurks beneath happiness.
Who knows what the future holds?
There is no honesty.
Honesty becomes dishonest.
Goodness becomes witchcraft.
Man's bewitchment lasts for a long time.

Therefore the sage is sharp but not cutting,
Pointed but not piercing,
Straightforward but not unrestrained,
Brilliant but not blinding.

boogie : anarchist
4 days later
boogie said

:-D
how do you define power?

thanks, sweetie.  nobody wants to talk about this stuff with me…  i don't expect you, or anyone else for that matter to agree with anything i say.  i just want the chance to say it.  i can do that here in my blog.  but not really anwhere else.  what kind of world do we live in?  why must i be made to be silent?  what is so horrible about the idea of freedom that we dare not talk about it in public?  it's thoughtcrime!  i don't want to live my life afraid of the poor decisions other people might make, should they ever be allowed to decide anything for themselves.  i'm just not with that. 

i had vision of what the future would be like.  i saw it.  i know it's possible.  you don't have to believe a word i say.  that doesn't change the very real fact that the future i saw back then is the one we are in right now.  <3 

healing is happening, i think everyone feels it now.  big healing.  how we experience that healing is unique to each of us, individually.  how we share that healing with others is what counts, what makes a difference, makes it easier.  it doesn't have to end in the final battle between good and evil.  we do have the option of walking off the stage and putting an end to the whole silly act before the final scene is played out.

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